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SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
FOR THE COUNTY OF VENTURA
COURTROOM 26 HON. JAMES P. CLONINGER, JUDGE
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA,
Plaintiff,
vs.
CARLO PARLANTI,
Defendant.
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No. 2002026651
REPORTER'S PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2005
APPEARANCES:
For the Plaintiff: GREGORY TOTTEN
District Attorney
BY: GILBERT ROMERO
Deputy District Attorney
800 South Victoria Avenue
Ventura, California 93009
For the Defendant: RON BAMIEH
Attorney at Law
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PEOPLE'S WITNESS D I R E C T C R O S S R E D I R E C T R E C R O S S
GAIL PINCUS 3 52 63
JOHN REILLY 65 88 125 134
JODY KELLER 138 142
DEFENDANT'S WITNESS DIRECT CROSS REDIRECT RECROSS
ALFRED BERGER 144 148 150
MAI DE BARRA 151 155 158 159
EUGENE THAYER 161 166 167
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VENTURA, CALIFORNIA; WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2005
A.M. SESSION
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THE BAILIFF: Remain seated come to order. Court is now
in session.
THE COURT: All right. Counsel, we are on the record in
the Parlanti case. We don't have the defendant out with us
yet.
Any reason we can't get started as soon as he joins?
MR. BAMIEH: Just two seconds, your Honor. We are back
there -- I was here more than five minutes early, just for the
record.
THE COURT: You did get a full start for the day.
MR. BAMIEH: Just don't want a flag early in the game.
THE COURT: There is one thing I do want to take up.
Marty mentioned at the end of the day yesterday -- did he have
a chance to communicate that with the two of you yesterday?
MR. BAMIEH: He did with me, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Romero, did you have a chance to
talk to Deputy Pettit about the words that may have passed
between --
MR. ROMERO: He did give me a call yesterday, and I did
talk to him yesterday afternoon.
THE COURT: Either party requesting I take any action at
this point?
MR. ROMERO: No, your Honor.
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MR. BAMIEH: No, your Honor. I've -- how should I put
this? I can't make it any clearer as to how upset I was from
what was reported to me, and that I felt that any such
behavior would jeopardize Mr. Parlanti's case. So, I'm more
concerned about Mr. Parlanti than I am about anybody staying
in the courtroom listening to a trial.
THE COURT: Right. Okay. Well, as long as it's been
handled, let's proceed.
MR. ROMERO: Thank you, your Honor.
(Jurors enter courtroom.)
THE COURT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome
back. Sorry about the late start. My fault this morning. I
needed to confer with the lawyers in chambers about something
that occurred late in the day. So blame me. Probably already
were. I'll just confess early and get it over with.
We are back on the record of the case of People
versus Parlanti. We have all jurors, both counsel and the
defendant.
Mr. Romero, you may call your next witness.
MR. ROMERO: Thank you, your Honor.
THE CLERK: Do you solemnly swear that the testimony
you're about to give in the matter now pending before this
court will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?
THE WITNESS: I do.
THE CLERK: Please be seated at the witness stand. Can
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you please state and spell your name for the record.
THE WITNESS: Yes. It's Gail, G-A-I-L, J as middle
initial, Pincus, P-I-N-C-U-S.
GAIL J. PINCUS,
called as a witness by the People,
was examined and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. ROMERO:
Q Ms. Pincus, what is your present occupation?
A. Executive director of the Domestic Abuse Center in
Northridge, California.
Q How long have you had that position?
A. For about 16 years.
Q And when did this -- the Domestic Abuse Center open?
A. It opened in 1989.
Q And did you start that center?
A. Yes.
Q And can you tell me what your duties and
responsibilities are at the Domestic Abuse Center?
A. Uhm... I apply for and administer grants. I hire
and fire staff. I do all the clinical supervision at the
program, and I manage the various programs that the center
does.
And we are involved in a couch program for battered
women. We do counseling for battered women and their
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children. We do a probation-approved program for men who
batter their female partners, and we do a domestic violence
response team with the L.A. Police Department.
Q Do you do work with shelters?
A. Yes. We are on partnership with the Domestic Abuse
Response Team with one of the shelters in the San Fernando
Valley, Legal Haven Hills. And I work with actually all of
the shelters in L.A. County through the L.A. County Domestic
Violence Council. And I work with the shelters here in
Ventura because we often, with the emergency response team,
are placing clients in the middle of the night. So we are
working with the shelters here a lot.
Q And just to be clear, at the Domestic Abuse Center,
you work not only with victims of domestic violence, but I
believe you testified with batterers as well?
A. Yes. I co-facilitate that group.
Q When you say "co-facilitate," is that a counseling
group that you help administer?
A. It's -- batterers are probated into a program that
is -- that is regulated by California state law. And there
are certain guidelines that you have to follow. And then in
L.A. County, we are monitored and approved by the L.A. County
Probation Department. So, it's -- it's sort of a
psycho-educational kind of group.
Q And before your present employment with the Domestic
Abuse Center, where did you work?
A. I worked at the Family Violence Project of Jewish
Family Services, and I worked there first as a therapist and
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then as co-director of that project. And I brought the
batterers program to that program. I brought the children's
program to those children as well, and then also introduced a
research-oriented assessment guide to -- to interviewing
battered women when they first come into a project.
Q When you initially described your duties and
responsibilities at the Domestic Abuse Center, your present
duties, it appeared that you had a lot of administrative
duties; is that correct?
A. That's true.
Q Do you, in your employment there, do you do handle
any individual counseling with victims of domestic violence?
A. Yes. I still have a case load, and I still do a
battered women's support group every week. And I handle a lot
of the initial calls that come into the center. So, I do -- I
do a lot of the initial triaging of people to make sure that
they are in the right place and give them appropriate
referrals because sometimes they call us when they should have
called 9-1-1 or sometimes they are calling us and actually the
situation is so dangerous they need to be in a shelter. And I
co-facilitate the batterers' group as well, so I have that
direct clinical experience.
Q And on a monthly basis, can you approximate how many
victims of domestic violence you come into contact with?
A. Uhm... on the -- on the team, we probably -- we
average about 500 calls a year. On the -- on the team, we are
probably looking at about, you know, 50 to 60 clients a month
that we are going through, and I read all the reports that the
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advocates write, and then I'm out on that team as well. And
then between the screening of the calls and the clients that I
see, I -- I probably personally touch probably between 75 and
80 clients a month.
Q And what educational background do you have that
qualifies you to do what you do?
A. I'm -- I have my bachelor's degree in sociology,
social welfare from Cal State Northridge; master's degree in
social work from USC School of Social Work; licensed clinical
therapist in the state of California; and then in -- in
graduate school, I actually began working with victims of
domestic violence, and there were two professors on the
faculty at that time, who were nationally-known experts in the
field, and there weren't very many in the 1980s. And they
worked with myself and a fellow student above and beyond our
normal course work. They tutored us in the field of domestic
violence, and then they -- they also gave some classes that I
took as well.
And then after that, uhm, I -- post graduation, I
was hired part time at the Family Lounge Project, and then
they are mandated, as every domestic violence program is in
the state of California, to give a 40-hour training to every,
single person who works in this field, either as volunteer or
staff or administration, has to go through that 40-hour
training. So, I attended that as well, and then ended up
giving that training.
Uhm, then attended seminars and conferences and read
the literature on domestic violence and just kept myself as
in costruction
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wrote him a couple of e-mails describing what had happened,
but did she say the exact same thing in every one of those
communications? No. And it's ridiculous to think that she
would; that to think that she would say the exact same thing
every time she talked about it.
Now, you -- you may consider the ability of
Ms. White to see, hear or otherwise be aware of what happened.
When she talked about what happened over several hours of that
night of June 29th over several hours, when she talked about
it, was she really -- do you really think she was paying
attention to how many times the defendant initially banged her
head against the wall? Was she counting them? Or do you
think she was trying not to get too hurt?
When the defendant banged her head against the
adjacent wall, do you think she was counting how many times he
was banging her head? Or do you think she was thinking about
not getting hurt? When the defendant choked her and she fell
to the floor and he started kicking her, do you think she
counted how many times he kicked her? And if she says, "I
think he banged my head about 30 times," to the best of her
recollection, that's probably what she remembers. Was she
counting them? No.
When she says, "I think he kicked me ten times," to
the best of her recollection, that's what it felt like to her;
that he banged her head 30 times. Did he bang her head
against one wall 30 times and then banged her head against the
adjacent wall 30 times? Probably not. But does that change
the fact that that's what it felt like to her when she's being
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beaten like that? when she's being slapped? when she's being
kicked? Is she going to have an accurate recollection of all
that or is she just going to be thinking at that time, "I need
to make sure to protect myself as best I can. I don't want to
get too hurt"? You need to look at the core of what Ms. White
said.
Clarence Darrow was a famous, early 20th-century
attorney, and he represented John Scopes, Scopes' monkey trial
is probably his most famous case. He was a criminal defense
lawyer and a labor lawyer. He also represented Leopold and
Lowe, two well-to-do guys from the Midwest who were charged
and I believe they pled guilty to killing a young guy. Those
are probably his two more well-known cases, but he had a very
long and distinguished career.
And one of the persons he represented in about 1920
was a young guy, who was accused of bombing the Los Angeles
Times Building, here in Los Angeles. And the prosecution in
that case had a star witness. They had a person who
personally I.D.'d this defendant running away from the scene
of the bombing of the L.A. Times Building.
So, the district attorney's office in Los Angeles
sent Mr. Darrow the statement of this witness and he read it.
And sure enough, "I saw your client bombing the building, and
I saw him run away." Mr. Darrow hired his investigator, and
he sent this investigator out to talk to this witness. He got
the report back, looked at it, same thing. "I saw your client
bomb the building and run away." Looked at the initial report
that he was provided by the district's attorneys office, exact
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same thing.
They get to trial. This witness gets on the stand
and testifies to the exact same thing, word for word,
verbatim. And Mr. Darrow got a "not guilty" for his client
because he argued to the jury that that is not the way things
work in real life. We don't work off of scripts. Maybe in
television, but in real life, we do not work off of scripts.
People do not say the same exact thing, word for word, every
time they talk about an event.
I'm asking you to consider all of the evidence. Not
just the minutia, the minuscule, little inconsistencies that
have flooded this case.
The defense's theory is to attack Ms. White with the
tiniest of details and make the record as messy as possible.
We spent an inordinate amount of time in this trial going over
things she said to Deputy Fullerton that were different than
things she said to Deputy Reilly the next day that were
different from what she faxed to Deputy Reilly on the 22nd
that were different than what she testified to in the
preliminary hearing earlier this year.
If we were to have another hearing and had her
testify again, would there be things that she said over the
trial these last three days that she never said before? Yes.
You can talk about something over and over and over, but what
you need to look at is the core. The core.
Is she being consistent with what she has said? She
may not remember three years ago what happened over four to
five hours. She may not be able to remember that. The
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deputies were given transcripts, taped transcripts, verbatim,
word for word, of what was spoken three years ago; given an
opportunity to review them before they came on the stand to
testify, and they couldn't remember what they were talking
about. They had to keep referring to the report. And in
fact, they just kept reading through the report when they were
being asked questions. They weren't testifying on their
memory. They were -- "Yeah, that's what it says here. That's
what it says here." And I made that objection two times with
both deputies. I was watching. Several questions. "Oh,
yeah, that's what it says here. That's what it says here."
Ms. White didn't have an opportunity to do that, to look at
her transcript, taped statements, and see exactly what she
said.
That's what the defense is trying to do here. They
are trying to get the record as messy as possible. Looking at
your notes, you probably don't have an exact word-for-word
exchange of what was said on the stand because it was so
minuscule, so tiny, it was difficult to follow everything that
was being said. The defense wants you to lose focus of the
big picture by pointing out every single variation, including
the most miniscule of each of Ms. White's statements, but I'm
asking you, look at the core.
Three years ago, my brother got married; my older
brother, someone who I love very much. He got married in San
Luis Obispo. I have a very large family. I have relatives
here in California, in Texas, Michigan, Florida as well as
Mexico and Brazil. A lot of them came to the wedding up in
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San Luis Obispo. It was in June of 2002, three years ago.
Little over three years ago.
And I drove up from the wedding because I live here
in Ventura, got in my car the day of the wedding, the day of,
drove up, had lunch with my brother, and it was -- the wedding
was actually on a ranch, a small ranch; had a lot of family
there.
After having breakfast, we went over to the ranch,
and I had a bunch of cousins, little cousins ranging from
three to about 16 years old there. And the ranch actually
belonged to the parents of the bride, and they had really nice
horses. They had this area -- kind of like a park area where
people were playing football, and I remember taking my -- a
group of my cousins, about ten of them, like I said, large
family, and we walked over to the horses. We were able to pet
the horses, comb their hair; afterwards, played a little
football with some other relatives.
Then the wedding started. Sat through the wedding.
As soon as the wedding was over, I left; drove back down to
Ventura.
Now, since that time -- actually, shortly
thereafter, I got phone calls, and I spoke to relatives who
weren't able to make the wedding, and they asked me about it.
So I told them. I told some about the actual wedding. I told
some about the horses. I told some about the football. I
told some about my cousins.
If you were to go back and look at every statement
that I made to those relatives about that day -- and it wasn't
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something traumatic. It was a wonderful day, seeing my
brother get married -- would they all be consistent? No.
They wouldn't be. That's a natural tendency. If they are all
consistent, exactly the same, that's when you start to wonder.
What is going on here? Why are they so consistent?
In all of the information that was launched at
Ms. White while she was on the stand for those three days, all
the e-mails, all the letters that were given to her, was --
was it ever stated that she said she lied? that she said she
was not beaten? that she said that she was not raped? Did
that ever happen? No. Ms. White never made that statement.
She might have talked about it endlessly to anyone she can
think of, but did she ever say she lied? that she was not
raped? that she was not beaten? No, she did not.
Corroborating evidence. Going back to my story of
my brother's wedding. Let's say I had to prove that I was
there three years ago. Let's say I had to prove that I was
there, okay. You have my statement to you that I went there.
Well, how about some more proof? Okay. I remember on the way
back, I stopped by a gas station, and I used my credit card
for some gas. I can produce that document showing that my
credit card was used on a particular date in San Luis Obispo.
Corroborating evidence to show that I was there on that date,
proving I was there.
Well, we have Ms. White's testimony. And should you
look at it with a critical eye? Yes, you should. Look at it
with a very critical eye. The allegations she is making
against the defendant are serious. Look at it.
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What else do we have to show that she is telling you
the truth? Well, we have people who came in and testified
that they saw Ms. White shortly after the 29th walking slow.
None of them said they saw any bruising on her face. None of
them recalled that, but they do recall her walking very slow.
She was not making eye contact. Couple people said she was
kind of looking down. Before that, she would say "hi." She
would look at them. "How're you doing?" Superficial
greetings. But then remember her -- and I think it was Kevin
Bunch and Sarah Campbell said, "Yeah, after the 29th, you
know, she really wasn't making eye contact with us anymore.
Didn't see any bruising, don't really recall any arguments,
any loud noise on the 29th coming from their apartment or
anywhere around that time, but I remember there was something
different in her demeanor." Corroborating evidence.
The photographs that Ms. White took of herself in
the bathroom. She took two photographs of the bruising to her
face with the disposable camera, and she kept them. During
this time, she's still living with the defendant. She's still
sleeping in the same bed right next to him, and she was only
zip tied to him at night.
During the day, he would be gone. She would be able
to leave if she wanted to. Why didn't she leave? I can't
answer that question. I'm sure there are profound,
psychological reasons why Ms. White stayed in that apartment;
why she did not just call 9-1-1; why she did not just go to a
neighbors; why she didn't do a number of things. She did take
pictures of herself.
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Almost three weeks later from the date of the
incident, she finally does go to the sheriff's department, on
July 18th, and they take photographs of Ms. White. And they
also came in and testified to the best of their recollection
they don't really remember seeing that type of bruising on her
face or any bruising; don't really remember seeing that
bruising on her face. Well, they do recall seeing some faded
bruising on her arm, I believe -- and I believe that was
Deputy Reilly testified to that. And Deputy Keller, Jody
Keller, is the one who took these photographs, and she said,
"She might have had some bruising on her arm, and I think I
remember seeing some bruising on her back near her ribs."
Well, almost three weeks later, the bruising that
she suffered faded. So when she went to the deputy sheriff,
that evidence was not there at that time, but there is another
injury that she had that doesn't heal like bruises, does not
heal that quickly. Three weeks or so was not enough time.
And what I'm talking about is the two fractured ribs that she
had.
On July 22nd, she goes to Doctors On Duty in
Monterey, and she sees Dr. Troy Manchester, and she gets
treated. And Dr. Manchester takes x-rays of her ribs because
she's been complaining of this pain. She's been having
problems, walking slow. The residents at the apartment
complex testified to that. The sheriff's deputies testified
to that, her moving kind of slow. She's got two fractured
ribs. You can tell -- he can put the fractured ribs, in his
opinion, as happening between two and six weeks before. July
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22nd, two to six weeks before. That puts June 29, 2002 in
that range. Takes a lot longer for fractured ribs to heal
than it does for bruises. That is corroborating evidence.
And the defense might come up and argue that: Well,
she could have fractured her ribs doing a number of things.
The evidence was clear that when Dr. Manchester examined her,
she had no other injuries on her face. She wasn't in no
recent car accident where she still -- where her ribs hit the
steering wheel possibly. There was no bruising there.
Corroborating evidence that the defendant beat her on
June 29th.
What other corroborating evidence do you have that
the defendant did this to Ms. White? Sandra Lavagnino.
Sandra Lavagnino came in, and she testified that the defendant
was charming in their relationship when they first started
dating. She fell in love with him, and she moved into his
apartment. And once she was in his apartment, that's when the
abuse started. She talked about lying in bed, sleeping.
Defendant comes in and throws cold water on her. Other
occasions, lying in bed, sleeping. Defendant comes in and
flips the bed over. No apparent reason. She talks about the
defendant choking her to unconsciousness. She talked about
the defendant and her having a conversation and something
being said, she didn't recall exactly what, but the defendant
then just losing it, threw her in the sink, hit her with a
colander on her head, ripped off her dress and lit it on fire.
The defendant likes the power and control. He takes
out his frustrations on his significant others. That's what
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he does. And the purpose of that evidence, the purpose of
Ms. Lavagnino coming here and testifying is to show you just
that; that you can consider that to show that he has a
propensity to act violently against his significant others.
Finally, what other corroborating evidence do we
have? Well, Ms. White testified that the defendant left on a
business trip on July 16th. She reported the incident on the
18th. Detective John Reilly testified that when he got
involved in the investigation, he went looking for the
defendant at Dole Foods. He testified, "I went to Dole Foods,
and I talked to a couple people, one of them being a security
officer there, looking for the defendant. Didn't find him
there."
The evidence shows -- where is the next time we see
Mr. Parlanti? Katia testifies that we see Mr. Parlanti in
late July or early August of 2002 back in Italy. I'll let you
think about that.
The diaries. We spent a lot of time talking about
the diaries that Ms. White kept. She kept two diaries; one
for herself, and one to help the defendant to help the
defendant in some type of litigation that he was involved in.
And the diary that she kept to help the defendant, she didn't
put any of the abuse in. Why? This was for his attorneys,
for the defendant, to help him in his lawsuit. So there
wouldn't be anything about violence in that diary. There was
no mention of beating that happened on June 29, 2002 in either
one of those diaries.
Ms. White stated on the stand, "I remember Carlo
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telling me to get out of the office and go into the bedroom,
and I remember that's where I made the entries in both
diaries." That's what she testified to. Then Mr. Bamieh
showed her the two diaries and said, "There's different color
ink. How could you have made the same entry if there's a
black pen and a blue pen?" She really didn't have an answer
for him at that time. She said, "I think it might have been
two pens on the night stand. I don't remember."
On cross-examination, I asked her about it. And
then she says, "The entry that I made" -- actually, she says
this on direct initially, too. She says the entry she made on
June 29th, in her personal diary, she made before the abuse
happened. That's why there's no more -- that's why there's no
discussion of the abuse.
MR. BAMIEH: Objection. Misstating the testimony on
direct examination.
THE COURT: Overruled. The jurors are the judge of what
the evidence is.
MR. ROMERO: Then I show her the entry of the diary from
-- that she was keeping to help Mr. Parlanti because that has
entries that go beyond the 29th. So, I physically handed her
the diary and asked her, "Will you look at those dates?" And
she looked at them. And in her personal diary, her entry for
the 29th is on one page. In the diary -- you will get this.
In the diary that she kept for Mr. Parlanti, her entry for the
29th is just a few sentences, the very bottom. And at the
very top, you have June 24th, next entry, June 25th through
the 28th, and then at the bottom, June 29th. All in the same
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color pen, all -- if you look at it, looks like the exact same
pen, same ink.
Ms. White testified that after June 29th, that the
defendant asked her to make the entries into the diary. He
actually asked her why she wasn't still doing it. This is the
diary that she was supposed to be keeping to help him. Look
at those entries. June 24th, June 25th through 28th, and
June 29th. Same pen. Same ink. Made at the same time, after
the June 29th date.
Go to the next page. June 30th, July 1st, July 2nd,
and you will have this part when you go back to deliberate.
Very short. Very brief. All in blue ink. All the same. But
a little different than entries on the other side, which
corroborates her testimony that she wrote them all at the same
time. Mr. Parlanti asked her, "Why aren't you still writing
in this diary?" She takes it, and she makes some entries.
Another occasion, she takes it, she's makes some more entries.
All the same.
Now, I admit that when she was initially asked on
cross-examination about the diaries that she said, "I think I
made them both at the same time the few minutes that I had
before he came in and pulled me out of bed." And my response
to that is: You can't expect a person who has been testifying
for three days about an incident that lasted several hours,
more than three years ago, to remember every little thing that
happened. That's unreasonable. That is unreasonable to
expect that.
As I said, there's no mention of the beating in the
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one that she continues to write in after June 29th because
that's the one she's keeping to help Mr. Parlanti. And if
he's checking it, how would it help him if she were to discuss
him beating her and raping her?
What did Ms. White gain by coming and testifying for
three days in this trial? She's got no lawsuit against the
defendant or his company. She did not take any money from the
defendant even though he gave her power of attorney over his
finances. She didn't take any of his money; had the
opportunity, did not do it.
And in opening arguments, Mr. Bamieh actually said,
"Ms. White is the one with the power in this relationship.
She had the power of attorney." Well, that was before you
heard the testimony. Did Ms. White have any power in that
relationship? No, she did not. She didn't take his
belongings. She took photographs of the apartment before she
left. And in it, it has all of his belongings; his suit, his
computer. You can all see it clearly there in the photograph.
She didn't even take the furniture.
There was an e-mail that she sent about the
defendant promising to pay for her daughter's -- for her
daughter's college education. And because of that, Heather
should get the computers, but that didn't happen. That was
Ms. White talking out of anger after what Mr. Parlanti did to
her, and she's talking to everybody.
She sat through several days of examination. She
was asked tough questions both by the prosecution and by the
defense. And she came back day after day after day and
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answered those tough questions. The defense stated in their
opening statement that it was Ms. White, who was driving this
investigation.
Well, you heard her daughter Heather Reeves come to
court and testify. And she said, "I flew out to help my mom
move." Didn't see any bruising on her face; packed up her
stuff, spent the night in the hotel, and drove up to Monterey.
She was being honest. Was Heather Reeves being honest? Was
she credible about her testimony? Did she say, "Oh, my mom
was so beaten up"? No. She told you what she remembers three
years ago.
You had Sarah Campbell and Kevin Bunch and Alfred
Berger come and testify, who said they saw Ms. White walking;
that she was walking slow, didn't see any injuries on her
face, but I noticed something different in her demeanor. Did
Ms. White dictate their testimony? No.
Sandra Lavagnino, was she credible? She was on the
stand, and she was shaking. She didn't even look at the
defendant. She couldn't look at the defendant. What else
does she have in common with Ms. White? Don't want the
defendant to know her new last name. Don't want to even look
at the defendant.
Dr. Manchester. Did Ms. White dictate what
Dr. Manchester came to court and testified? Of course not.
What Ms. White did do was provide information on who
to contact. So, does that mean that she's driving the
investigation because she says, "You know what? I -- I talked
to my friends, and here are their phone numbers. Go and talk
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to them"? Does that mean she's driving the investigation?
How else is law enforcement supposed to contact potential
witnesses if we don't get their contact information? We need
that. It's a common sense thing. We need to talk to the
people that she talked to. The defense wants to make it seem
that just because she was providing us with that contact
information, that she was driving the investigation.
The defense whole theory in this case is to attack
Ms. White at every opportunity and to make the record as messy
as possible, so it's so confusing that the jurors say, "I
don't know what's going on."
I'm asking you to look at the big picture. Look at
all the evidence. Look at what Ms. White testified to and
look at the evidence that corroborates what she said. If you
consider all the evidence in this case, it's clear that the
defendant beat, bound, and raped Ms. White for the simple
reason is that he could. That's what he liked to do to
Ms. White on this occasion.
He saw Ms. White not as a person, but as another one
of those things he collects. He's a Romeo, who likes to go
out and meet women and talk to women and enchant them. That's
what he does.
Look at all the evidence. Look at the big picture.
One of the things we are taught at law school from the very
beginning is you don't want to lose sight of the forest by
looking at an individual tree. Look at everything. Look at
the entire forest. Don't get caught up on individual trees.
It's time that the defendant be held accountable for
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what he has done to Ms. White three years ago. It's time that
he be held responsible for what he did to Ms. White. And when
you look at all of the evidence, there's only one reasonable
conclusion you can come to, and that is the defendant loves to
exert power and control, and he beat, bound, and raped
Ms. White on June 29th. Thank you.
THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Romero.
Folks, we will take the morning break at this time,
20 minutes. Between now and the time you come back to court,
please don't discuss the case. Please don't form or express
opinions. Court is in recess.
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(Off record - recess.)
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